The numbers are out for the second annual All Points West Music Festival and they aren’t as good as one would hope. According to the New York TImes, tickets sales for the festival’s second edition, which featured Jay-Z, Tool, Coldplay, My Bloody Valentine, and nearly 60 others, were 71,500 for all three days, down some 4,000 from last year.

Paul Tollett, the president of the APW’s promoter, Goldenvoice, cited the poor weather leading up to and during the festival as one culprit for the drop, noting it likely deterred many last-minute ticket buyers.

When asked what this means for the future of All Points West, Tollett said he has yet to contact Liberty State Park, the location of the festival for its first two years. “This show needs time to develop and find its home,” he said. “I’d like to do it again. I’d like it not to rain.”