This evening’s episode of Zane Lowe’s radio program on BBC Radio 1 featured an interview with Kanye West. If you recall, the two men previously spoke following the release of Yeezus in September 2013, a conversation which generated headlines and late-night TV parodies for Kanye’s inflammatory comments on classism and his stature in the industry (e.g., “Rap is the new rock and roll, we bring culture, we the real rock stars. And I’m the biggest of all of them.”).
Their latest meeting was much more mild-mannered, as Kanye discussed the events of the last 18 months, specifically the launch of his collaboration with adidas. He also spoke more on classism, as well as the Grammys, fatherhood, and his relationship with Drake.
Perhaps the most surreal moment of the interview came when Kanye spoke about his relationship with fashion designer Louise Wilson, who passed away in May 2014. She was “notorious for not letting people atop at a 7 or 8, pushing people to a 12,” Kanye said of her ideology, which he has no doubt taken to heart. He then recounted a dinner they had together prior to her passing, and the words of advice she gave him: “When a child does something good, parents generally clap. ‘Kanye, don’t clap.'” Moments later, Kanye broke down in tears, leading Lowe to briefly pause the interview.
Despite his best efforts, Lowe was only able to get a few words out of Kanye regarding his next album. Kanye said he’s “just working hard on it,” adding that’s he’s “got a lot of opinions and perspectives” left to voice. “The College Dropout came out of a fight to rap, and this new album’s coming out of a fight to design,” he explained “It’s a joyful noise onto the Lord … it’s still a struggle, but beauty from the struggle.”
In regards to the Grammys, Kanye equated his love-hate relationship with the awards show to an ex-girlfriend. “As soon as you get in a car with them, you want to go right back home.”